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Explosive Purported Conversation Between MM Joshi Ex-GM,NCS,SBU and MM Pandey, GM,Vigilance

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An explosive purported conversation between former in-charge of Air Force’s Rs. 7,900 Crore project, MM Joshi and another BEL senior officer MM Pandey recently surfaced and received by the corruptionindrdo.com through anonymous sources. MM Joshi was the officer who signed the IACCS contract on behalf of Bharat Electronics Limited in October 2015 and served as driving force till April 2016 when he was unceremoniously transferred from BEL.

According to sources, Joshi was removed from the position after he refused to endorse large-scale corruption in the project that was being orchestrated through senior officers of defence public sector undertaking.

Another person in purported conversation, MM Pandey (GM), who conducted inquiry in alleged irregularities in IACCS project and exposed the deep-rooted corruption in the project. Pandey has now been suspended by BEL for exposing corruption. The government, which vows to fight corruption has been a mute spectator all along while Pandey is being harassed for doing honest job. MM Joshi who handled the sensitive IACCS project in purported conversation with Pandey has made startling revelation suggesting that alleged loot in contract began immediately after BEL signed the agreement with Indian Air Force and at least two senior officers were instrumental in perpetrating the irregularities. Joshi is also heard in the conversation admitting that it is fit case to be investigated by the Central Bureau of Investigation.

This shocking revelation fly in the face of BEL, which has been trying to cover-up the massive scam and punishing honest officers, who expose the rot. It has been learnt from the reliable sources that Department of Defence Production, has recommended a CBI probe but the file for the last one month is still awaiting recommendation of defence minister.

While this case has been caught in bureaucratic quagmire due to influence exercised by the Babus, BEL officers, the inquiry team which exposed corruption has been suspended. This is a sad reality of a vibrant democracy where corrupts are honored and honest officers are hanged.

This whistleblower website which has been on the forefront of anti-corruption movement for more than a decade has decided to publish excerpts of the purported conversation which makes it amply clear on loot right under the nose of government and investigating agencies.

www.corruptionindrdo.com,  however, cannot independently verify the authenticity of audio. Received from anonymous source. www.corruptionindrdo.com has forwarded government agencies for further investigation.

Here are the excerpts of conversation between MM Joshi (NCS SBU head in BEL when the IACCS project was finalized between BEL and Air Force, Retired in March 2019) and MM Pandey (GM-PS/Delhi who was the Vigilance Inquiry Officer who brought out the corruption in IACCS project) on 9th April 2019  or 10th April 2019 after main stream media reports publish on 9th April 2019 “BEL allegedly violated string of norms to award contracts to German, Finnish firms; ex-CMD, two retired defence officials under scanner”

Mr. M.M. Joshi can be heard saying:

_ I was very careful in signing any document order/contract of IACCS without seeing that everyone has signed since I knew that all of these cases would be opened by Vigilance one day  

_This report is beyond the report which was made by M.M. Pandey and contains details of procurement of “A” class items. Mr. Nataraj Krishnappa (who is Director-Oother Units) and Mr. Joydeep Majumdar (who is the present GM-NCS) will finally be caught for what they have being doing (which brings out that he had knowledge of the wrong which was to happen in the project from the time the project was taken up).

_ One of the Directors of BEL is saying that there is some person in DRDO who has leaked the report to press  

_ What has been brought out in the second news article is point to point and ever thing which has been written is the truth and today’s report is very explosive and related to Material Procurement  

– This report will directly indict Mr. Nataraj and Mr. Majumdar. They should get a lesson and they should get the return for whatever wrong they have done. They were the people behind my transfer out of NCS in fact Mr. Majumdar had started manipulations even before he took over as SBU head. Also Mr. Nataraj is the person who manipulated the selection of D (OU) and saw that my application for that post gets rejected so that he could be selected. He was also responsible for my transfer out of NCS SBU and bringing in Mr. Joydeep Majumdar in my place

_ All these should be handed over to CBI/CAG or they should take suo moto cognizance of the corruption done by these people.

_ All the companies to which order has been given are shell companies  

_ I will wait for that day when these two are punished for what they have been doing.  

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India, US agree on arms deal, but technology transfer remains key

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Rajat Pandit, TNN | Aug 9, 2014, 05.34AM IST

NEW DELHI: India and the US on Friday agreed to go in for co-development and co-production of advanced weapon systems, with Washington pushing New Delhi for early decisions on offers ranging from the next-generation Javelin anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs) to unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).Modi-Chuk

But India will not jump headlong into any venture without first ensuring the US sticks to its promise to provide “ground-breaking technology” on par with its closest allies, even though the Modi government is keen to strengthen the moribund domestic defence production sector.

The decision to revive the floundering Defence Trade and Technology Initiative (DTTI) between the two countries, as also work towards the extension of the 10-year India-US defence framework, was taken after visiting US defence secretary Chuck Hagel held delegation-level talks with his Indian counterpart Arun Jaitley.
But India is still not fully convinced about the US as a reliable long-term, high-end defence supplier, given its propensity to impose sanctions and stringent export control laws. The US, however, believes it can effectively marry trade and technology, with benefits for both.

Stressing that “security, stability, freedom of sea lanes, economic development and energy” is in the interest of the two countries as well as the Asia-Pacific region, Hagel said the US wants to be a partner in India’s military modernization and recognises its needs to strengthen its defence-industrial base.
The US will be led by its under secretary of defence acquisition, technology and logistics Frank Kendall in the DTTI. The Indian points-man, in turn, will be the defence production secretary, which is a comedown from before since former national security advisor Shivshankar Menon earlier led the initiative. Jaitley, incidentally, accepted Hagel’s invite to visit Pentagon when he goes to Washington to attend the annual meetings of IMF and World Bank.

Of all the joint development and production offers, the US is especially keen to push the case for fourth-generation Javelin ATGMs, which even President Barack Obama has personally pushed with Modi. The Indian ATGM project, after all, is going to be worth over $2.5 billion. Javelin is in contention with the Israeli “Spike” tank-killing missiles to bag the project, as was earlier reported by TOI.

With the 1.13-million Indian Army grappling with a huge shortfall of 44,000 ATGMs of different types, the project involves an initial direct acquisition of the man-portable “tank killers”, with a strike range of 2.5km, followed by technology transfer to defence PSU Bharat Dynamics for large-scale indigenous manufacture. The Army is keen to equip all its 382 infantry battalions with third and fourth-generation ATGMs.

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Vladimir Sikorski (Ulyanovsk. Russia) 3 hrs ago
In the 50’s and 60’s the Russians supplied us with their MIG’s, T-72 tanks and other weapons. The technology was transferred at that time. What happened after that. Were you guys able to develop further from that platform and make your own planes. No. The French transferred their Mirage aircraft technology in the 70’s and 80’s. Did you develop your own from that platform. No. It took 30 years to develop a 3rd generation aircraft called the Tejas. The Arjun tank was forced on the Army. So why do you Indians keep harping about technology transfer. Even after we give you all the books and manuals and the design features for a product, your paan chewing babu’s of the DRDO and the Defence Ministry are unable to develop anything over and above that. It is way better and cheaper to employ German and Japanese engineers and scientists, pay them well in India and they will develop your arms industry for you. You don’t have much time. World War III is round the corner.

Himanshu Agarwal (Location) replies to Vladimir Sikorski 54 mins ago Bronze : 189189 PointsWordsmith 1News King 1Frequent Flyer 2
Yeah probably India should focus of Developing worlds class universities and then investing similar amount to restructure and new-hiring in DRDO.

Jagdish Sinha (Patna. Bihar) 1 day ago
The USA now is willing to give all the technology India wants as it knows that the idiots in DRDO cannot duplicate or build on anything. The technology for the MIG and the T-90 tanks was transferred by Russia long time ago but we are still unable to build on it and innovate based on the earlier model. It took 30 years to build the Tejas. What a joke it turned out to be. The tech for the French planes was also provided, but just to upgrade the planes they spent billions and had to send them to France. Poor show India.

Swami Vas (Hong Kong) 103 Followers1 day ago Gold : 19.5K19495 PointsInfluencer 7Wordsmith 7Networker 2
PULSE OF INDIA: The fact that India is unconvinced of the reliability of US as a trustworthy defence supplier is absolutely understandable and perfect, considering the past experiences where the US had utterly failed to keep its promises on some important deals. So, it is only right for India to insist that all major deals should be fair and wherever appropriate include transfer of technology which was rightly pinpointed by the Prime Minister. The US belief that it can “effectively marry trade and technology” benefitting both is simply yet another striking example of marriage of convenience! The defence needs of India are indeed varied and important, some even urgent, but the Indian requirements are also huge and long-standing. Thus, it is important for India to ensure continuity in the supply chain which can only be achieved by establishing manufacturing facilities within the country. The keenness of US to strike deals with India on the latest weapons is also equally understandable, especially considering the money-value of the deal as well as its own role as a leading defence equipment exporter but the US should know that from now on all deals with India will have to be on a win-win situation basis! However important or urgent the defence needs are to modernize its armed forces, India should indeed not hurry or plunge into any deals without knowing the depth! India is the largest democracy in the world followed by the US but whether they have been truly friendly or why the US has failed to extend a hand of friendship befitting that status are debatable issues. But one thing is for certain which the world should know that the 21st Century India presently under Modi leadership is going to be a power to be reckoned with! (cc: BJPCALL-LC / PMO /MOD)

Krishna Jha:22 hours ago US Is the leader in front line technology. Before signing any agreement we must ask for TOT. Why to reinvent the wheel. As our limitations to re engineer MIG has been unsuccessful but translating blue more..

 

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Arjun under fire, Army wants another MBT — Manu Pubby Posted: Sat Apr 26 2008, 23:54 hrs NEW DELHI, APRIL 25:

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The latest round of user trials has made it clear that even after 30 years of development, Arjun Tank comes nowhere near meeting minimum operational requirements of the Army.

However, what is worrying the top brass is that DRDO’s insistence on inducting larger numbers of the indigenous tank will come in the way of a newer, better “Main Battle Tank (MBT) of the future” that is now required by the Army.

While Army HQ is not even thinking about extending its original order of 124 Arjun Tanks for two regiments, given that it is unacceptable for induction in the present form, the top brass is concerned that continued DRDO efforts on the Arjun will delay its requirement of a futuristic MBT.

The Army has now told DRDO that there is no point bickering about the past and the Arjun Tank should be treated as a technology demonstrator and a platform to work on a totally new tank design for the future.

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There is a certain degree of urgency in the Army’s demand as it is aware of an increasing void in the tank armoury and its requirement of 3,500 tanks to replace the ageing T 72 MBT.

“After 30 years, the Arjun has not fructified, and now we need to start with a new design and a new tank. We have always said that a next (generation) tank has to come out in due course of time. We now have a base and expertise to start on the futuristic tank,” Lt Gen KDS Shekhawat, who till February was Director General of Mechanised Forces at Army HQ, said.

The current round of winter trials, where the German-origin power pack of the tank failed four times within a run of 1,000 kms, is the latest in the series of setbacks that have dogged the project since its inception in 1974.

The Army is disappointed that the tank has failed to deliver on every single count that was citied for the prolonged indigenous research project. The engine, tracks, transmissions and gunners sight — that together account for 60 per cent of its cost — are all imported.

“When we placed the order, 60 per cent of the components were imported. It was going to cost us Rs 25 crore at a time when the T 90 was available for below Rs 10 crore. But it was an indigenous effort, so we agreed for 124 tanks. But not much has changed. We still remain dependant on foreign firms, and there is a lot of unhappiness as it has not met operational requirements of the Army,” feels General VP Malik, who was the Army chief during the Kargil conflict.

The Army is not just questioning the technology of the tank but is also worried about Arjun’s reliability factor given that various components of the tank have not been tested in harsh climatic conditions and terrain unique to India.

As demonstrated during the ongoing Accelerated Usage-cum-Reliability Trials (AUCRT) of the Arjun tank (crucial to clear it for bulk production), the German engine failed four times as it had never been extensively tested by the Army in desert conditions in the past.

Besides, the Army also found “unacceptable” the chipping of the gun barrel during firing trials. The old problem in the hydro pneumatic suspension system also resurfaced.

The next litmus test for the Arjun comes on May 5 when DRDO will make a presentation at Army HQ to explain the defects and the steps taken to rectify the engine faults. Ironically, the DRDO, which was supposed to clarify on the trials this month itself, delayed the presentation by close to two weeks, saying it needs more time to prepare a report. After the DRDO presentation, the Army will take a call to either repeat the third round of AUCRT trials or proceed to the fourth “summer round” of the trials.

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• General VP Malik, former Army Chief “I can see a lot of unhappiness with the quality of the tank. It is primarily because of very long delay. Even at the end of it all, the tank has not come up to the operational satisfaction of the Army. I am all for self-reliance but we have to make the Arjun more indigenous than it is today.

Lt Gen KDS Shekhawat, former DG, Mechanised Forces No point bickering over past. It is gone. Tanks have a certain shelf life, and now we need a new design looking into the future. Ultimately, it is the men who have to use the tank. If they have confidence, they will love the equipment.

• Brig Gurmeet Kanwal, director, Centre for Land Warfare Studies I don’t really see a major future of the Arjun as the MBT of India. Over all, the Arjun tank has not met certain major parameters. However, the Army had expected that the two regiments to be inducted would meet requirements so that extensive trials could be carried out.

• AV Singh, former defence secretary Regardless of the shortcomings, we must encourage it as an indigenous effort. As far as opening development to the Indian private sector is concerned, it will add to the competition, improve quality and will shorten the development time.